Sep 30, 2025

Ringdown Bounds on UV-Regularized Black-Hole Cores

How we use AI and gravitational wave "echoes" to listen for hidden structures inside black holes, testing the limits of quantum gravity.

Marius Constantin-Dinu

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Listening to Black Holes: A New Way to Test the Frontiers of Physics

Black holes are the most extreme objects in the universe. They are cosmic laboratories where our understanding of gravity, space, and time is pushed to its absolute limit. Studying them is essential for testing Einstein's theory of general relativity and for chipping away at one of the biggest mysteries in science: a unified theory of quantum gravity. By observing how these giants warp spacetime and influence the galaxies around them, we gain insights into the life cycle of stars and the very structure of our universe.

But what happens deep inside a black hole, at its very center? General relativity predicts a "singularity"—a point of infinite density where the laws of physics break down. However, many theories of quantum gravity suggest that this isn't the whole story. They propose that the singularity is replaced by something else, a tiny, "UV-regular" core that has a real, physical size.

The challenge? We can't just send a probe to look. So, how can we test these ideas? The answer might be in the "sound" a black hole makes.

When two black holes merge, they create a violent storm in spacetime, sending out ripples as gravitational waves. In the final moments after the merger, the newly formed black hole wobbles, much like a bell after it's been struck. This phase is called the ringdown, and the gravitational waves it emits carry a precise "tone" and "decay rate." Our new paper, "Ringdown Bounds on UV-Regularized Black-Holde Cores," shows how we can "listen" to this ringdown for subtle distortions that could be the signature of a hidden core.

(While not directly from our research, this stunning video I created provides a visual feel for the dynamics at play near a black hole's event horizon.)

Why We Need to Look Beyond the Singularity

In physics, infinities are often a red flag. They tell us that our theory is being stretched beyond its limits and is breaking down. The singularity at the heart of a black hole, a point of predicted infinite density and spacetime curvature, is perhaps the most famous infinity in modern physics. It's a place where general relativity, our best theory of gravity, essentially gives up.

This breakdown is where quantum mechanics is expected to step in. A core principle that emerges from combining gravity and quantum mechanics is the idea of a minimum length, often associated with the Planck length (an incredibly small ~1.6 x 10⁻³⁵ meters). The intuition is simple: to see something very small, you need to hit it with a lot of energy. According to the uncertainty principle, probing smaller and smaller scales requires higher and higher energies. At the Planck scale, the required energy would be so immense that it would collapse into a tiny black hole itself, preventing you from ever measuring a smaller distance.

This suggests that spacetime isn't a smooth, continuous fabric but might be "pixelated" at its most fundamental level. If there's a minimum length, then matter can never collapse to an infinitely small point. The singularity must be replaced by something else—a structure with a tiny but finite size. The question is, what is that "something"?

The Indicative Signature of a de Sitter Core

Many quantum gravity theories propose that the collapsing matter in a black hole undergoes a phase transition, forming a core of "false vacuum" energy. This creates a small patch of de Sitter space—a region with a natural, repulsive pressure that pushes outward. This outward pressure can counteract the inward pull of gravity, halting the collapse and resolving the singularity.

Our research models this scenario using a Hayward-type metric. This is an elegant mathematical tool that describes a smooth transition from the familiar black hole exterior to a non-singular de Sitter core of size L. We found that if a black hole has such a tiny, localized core, it should slightly alter the ringdown. This change isn't random; it follows a precise mathematical rule—a cubic scaling law.

The deviation in the ringdown's frequency (δf) and damping time (δτ) is directly proportional to the cube of the core's size relative to the black hole's event horizon radius (rs):

(δf̂, δτ̂) = (cf, cτ) * (L/rs)³ + O[(L/rs)⁵]

This "cubic response" is a specific fingerprint. Other theories, like those involving long-range modifications to gravity, would produce a different fingerprint—a "linear" response proportional to (L/rs). This distinction is crucial because it allows us to tell different models apart based on how the effect scales.

To robustly calibrate the coefficients (cf, cτ) in this prediction, we used a three-pronged computational approach:

  1. Double-Null Time-Domain Evolution: A direct simulation that served as our anchor result.

  2. Audited Leaver Continued-Fraction Solver: A highly precise frequency-domain method, terminated with Nollert's condition, used for cross-checking.

  3. Local WKB–Padé Surrogate: A fast, accurate approximation that allowed us to interpolate the physics near the pure General Relativity limit.

All three methods agreed, giving us a solid foundation for the signature of a hidden core.

A New Toolkit for Black Hole Analysis

The most powerful idea in our work isn't just this one result, but a general method for using entire catalogs of gravitational wave events to hunt for new physics. We call this scaling-law regression. Instead of looking at one event in isolation, we combine data from dozens of black hole mergers observed by detectors like LIGO and Virgo to search for subtle patterns that scale predictably with a black hole's mass and spin.

This framework acts as a powerful discriminator between different classes of theories:

  • Localized Cores: Produce the cubic response ∝ (L/rs)³ we focused on.

  • Long-Range Metric Tails: Would instead introduce a linear leakage term ∝ (L/rs).

  • Propagation Effects (e.g., Modified Dispersion Relations): Add mass-dependent shifts with their own unique dependence on the black hole's final spin.

  • Exotic Compact Objects (ECOs): Predict late-time echo patterns or phase shifts rather than a small, coherent shift in the dominant ringdown mode.

The key is to test for coherence. A true signal from a hidden core must distort both the frequency and damping time in the fixed ratio (cf, cτ). By projecting the data from each event onto this predicted direction, we can amplify a potential signal and filter out noise.

From Theory to Data: A Statistical Approach

Exploiting the full catalog requires a careful statistical framework. We perform covariance-aware, start-marginalized hierarchical fits. This means we account for the correlated uncertainties in frequency and damping time for each event, and we average over all possible start times for the ringdown analysis, avoiding biases from arbitrary window choices.

This method allows us to directly test two competing hypotheses about the nature of a potential core:

  1. The Absolute Law (L = L₀): The core has a fixed, universal physical size. In this case, the ringdown deviation should scale as 1/M³ across the black hole catalog.

  2. The Fractional Law (L = ε * rs): The core's size is a fixed fraction of the black hole's size. Here, the deviation should be independent of mass.

Our analysis enforces a "validity prior," ensuring we only consider core sizes small enough for our cubic approximation to be reliable. This framework is also extensible; we provide a "dictionary" to translate our bounds to parameters in other models, such as the Gaussian-sourced noncommutative model where L ≃ (6√π)^(1/3) * √θ.

Accelerating Discovery: The Role of AI in This Research

This work was made possible by a modern, AI-augmented approach to scientific research, with human experts guiding every step. This synergy allowed us to move faster and with greater confidence.

  • AI-Powered Literature Review: We utilized a custom deep-research algorithm to systematically comb through decades of scientific literature. This tool helped us identify subtle connections between different theoretical models and prior work, ensuring our research was built on a comprehensive understanding of the field.

  • Symbolic Verification: The mathematical derivations underpinning our predictions are complex. We used AI-powered symbolic solvers to verify our equations and validate the code of our numerical solvers. This automated cross-checking process is crucial for catching errors and building trust in the theoretical framework.

  • AI-Assisted Analysis and Iteration: The results from our simulations produced a vast amount of data. We employed language and vision models to help analyze these results, identify key patterns, and visualize complex relationships. This created a tight feedback loop, allowing us to quickly refine our hypotheses and incrementally improve our methods.

This human-in-the-loop model, where AI tools augment the intuition and expertise of researchers, represents a powerful new paradigm for tackling the most challenging questions in fundamental physics.

What's Next and Why It Matters

This framework provides a clear roadmap for the future. Our next steps are:

  • Kerr Calibration: Extend our analysis from non-spinning to spinning black holes by using a Teukolsky-based solver to map out the spin-dependent coefficients (cf(a), cτ(a)).

  • Multi-Mode Catalogs: Apply coherence tests across multiple ringdown modes (e.g., the (2,2,0) and (3,3,0) modes) when signal-to-noise ratios permit.

  • Frequency-Domain Validation: Cross-check our results using frequency-domain likelihoods to standardize analysis window selection.

  • Open Benchmarks: Release our audited computational results, waveforms, and covariances to make scaling-law regression a community testbed.

You can follow our progress and explore the codebase on our GitHub repository: ExtensityAI/gr_qm.

This approach is powerful because it:

  • Creates a Structured Problem: It turns the search for new physics into a clear regression problem, which is robust even with the noisy data from individual, lower-SNR events.

  • Acts as a Discriminator: It uses mass and spin trends across a catalog to differentiate between types of new physics (e.g., interior core vs. long-range forces), something a single-event analysis can't do.

  • Provides Reusable Tools: The computational and statistical pipeline we built can be adapted to search for any weak, structured deviation from general relativity.

Ultimately, this work provides a concrete path to using gravitational wave spectroscopy to probe the deepest mysteries of gravity, one black hole merger at a time.

A Bonus For Making It To The End

Thanks for diving deep into the physics of black holes with us! As a small thank you for your curiosity, we've created some custom 'Extensity' wallpapers for your desktop and phone. Download them here and carry a piece of the cosmos with you.

For more versions and different formats, please visit our assets folder on GitHub.





Marius-Constantin Dinu is the CEO and founder of ExtensityAI, leading the development of the SymbolicAI framework, Symbia Engine, and Extensity Research Services Platform for research automation and neurosymbolic AI applications.

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